Friday, October 24, 2008

Is information alive?

In your video viewings for next week on the birth of the computer and the emergence of search engines, both George Dyson and Larry Page discuss computer intelligence as having life-like properties. Dyson even suggests that evolving binary computations and data are themselves living entities. Do you believe that artificial intelligence is alive? In what ways can information be said to be alive? Which is more life-like, information or knowledge? Are your searches smarter than you?

Tim Donahue

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

I do believe that artificial intelligence is alive in some way. Computers are not human which is a characteristic some will mistakenly coincide with being alive. However, like many living things, an artificially intelligent being has a birth, an arguably useful life, and a death. Upon being born, it learns countless new things and is at first clumsy and does not know much. But as its experiences progress, this being becomes more accustomed to its world and learns to complete the tasks asked of it better and better. As our friend artificial intelligence gets older and older, newer, fresher, smarter, younger versions of it are born which can stand on the shoulders of the original AI to become even better. As this happens more and more, the original AI's skills become obsolete, it gets worn out and eventually dies or fades away. Throughout its life each AI machine consumes energy (electricity) and produces waste (heat) in every operating scenario. In these senses and many others, Artificial intelligence is very much alive.
In this class I think we have already come to the collective conclusion that knowledge is more life-like than information. I believe that we have also decided that knowledge has not yet become prevalent among the artificial world where information runs rampant.
I don't think that my searches are smarter than me. I was first going to say that they are because they can find information that I would not be able to find on my own. Upon careful thought, I decided that I am finding the information, not them and that they are merely one of many tools that I can use to find and search through far more information than my searches can. I think that the reason searches are not smarter than me is that they can never know exactly what I want because that is lost in translation to keywords and subjects and titles, and other seemingly comprehensive, but still very limited categories and words to search.

Anonymous said...

Although computers and artifical intelligence are incredibly intelligent and useful in many ways, I do not believe that they can be considered to be alive. In order for something to be alive it must be able to make concious decisions and have a life span. It can be argued that they do have a lifespan because they are invented, further developed and eventually put to rest when something new comes around, but this can not be considered alive. Knowledge is more life-like because you must use knowledge to find information. Computers have a ton of information, but you must use your previous knowledge in order to find this information. I believe that I am smarter than my searches because once again it is up to me to direct the search and find the information I need. The searches have a lot of intelligence but it all comes from the intelligence of the people who published the information.

Unknown said...

I thought it was very interesting that he felt a computer and the whole system was like cells and that they worked together to form the compute. It’s hard to think that artificial intelligence is alive. I think of movies like The Matrix where computers take over and are dominant over humans. I would like to think that I, as a human, am smarter than a machine, but after watching those videos and I learned a lot about how complicated the whole system actually is. I still don’t completely understand how the internet or even a computer works, but someone does, and I would hope, that as long as someone can create that much intelligence, they can destroy it too.

I don’t feel that information can be said to be alive because it can’t think for itself, or have emotions. When I think of something alive, I defiantly don’t think of information.

Knowledge is something that is gained with age and legitimate information. Information is present, but not necessarily true. Like the videos stated, you can’t believe everything you read on the internet, because anyone and can put whatever they feel like on the internet without any editing.

Sometimes when I’m doing searches on Google, which is my preferred search engine, I’m very surprised at the information that is available to choose from. I don’t really think that the search is smarter than me, because it is doing what I tell it to do, and I have to do the work, and look through it to find what I am looking for; but it defiantly is very impressive to think about how advanced the technology of the Internet really is. It’s crazy to think how far we’ve come in such little time.

Unknown said...

John Von Neumann built the first giant computer in the history of mankind.And it was much more interesting to me to learn about the birth of computer. After watching a video, I do believe that artificial intelligence is alive. I don't think being alive means having breathing system and total life processes as animals possess. Being alive means more than that. For instance, computer has a life. It hepls us to see the world,feel the world and understand the world.It got its birth from mankind, it has its own type of body structure which processes memory, analyses different data, calculates different complex mathematical operations and interprets different information. It gives us both knowledge and information.

There has always been a discussion between information and knowledge. And I think, knowledge is definitely more life-like than information. Knowledge has always a perennial life span as when we achieve something it remains with us forever but in case of information, they are short lived and in actual sense, we use them only when we want them for a certain period of time.After finishing the certain task, we may not need that information. In other sense, knowledge is our need and information is our want.

Man is said to be the superior creature in the earth. So, I do think that we are smarter than computer and their searches. Actually, we made the computer and search engines for our convenience, not the computer made us.

andy gremillion said...

i think that that statement is totally incorrect. there is no way to compare a computer or any of its components to a human life. the closest thing that you can compare it to is the people who post thing on the internet, but other than that, a computer is just a large source of information. it cannot think for itself, nor can it do anything without human commands of some sort.
Information can said to be alive in the sence that it was learned and shared by a human lifesource. Other than that, there is no way information is alive. it is just something shared between two human beings, it has no lifeforms of its own.
I'd say knowledge is more lifelike than information, because its something that a human knows, not something that is just in some source of information, like a book or magazine.
My searches are not smarter, just the people who make the seach engines that i use. Like the creaters of google. i use that to search for information, but the info is not smarter than I.

Bill said...

I do not believe Artificial Intelligences (AI) are alive. Scientist’s generally agree that to be alive an intelligence must exhibit the following phenomena; organization, metabolism, growth, adaptation, have a response to stimuli and be able to reproduce. A case could be made for an AI that exhibits some form of all these phenomena so “life-like” is a fair argument. In 1997 when IBM's Deep Blue defeated Russian chess Grand Master Gary Kasparov computer engineers were elated. A few weekends past computer gurus were again high on success when a computer named Elbot managed to achieve a 25% success rate when convincing a human being that they were talking to another human. The experiment is called the Turing Test, after mathematician Alan Turing. The Turing Test states that to be considered "sentient," an artificial intelligence must achieve a 30% success rate. That means Elbot's 25% accomplishment, while noteworthy, does not an AI make. This brings into the discussion another caveat, to be considered alive in the human intelligence category there must be sentience, the knowledge of one’s own existence,
If we were to attach the word life-like to either information or knowledge than it is agreed knowledge receives the nod. As to the question are my searches (search engines) more intelligent than me? I would say they are (using the model of a Google type algorithm) faster, more exhaustive, and thorough. But like the dark vision of EPIC 2014 and 2015 explored and the actual way Google functions as explained by Brin and Page as well as others, Google, alas, and all other forms of electronic information gathering, are error prone and not smarter than I.

The Ranting Medic said...

There is no way that artificial intelligence is alive. It is called artificial intelligence because it is artificial; it is programmed by computer engineers who “aim to create it.” (Wikipedia) If we in fact create artificial intelligence, it must be based on our intelligence and therefore limited by it. I would say that information is said to be alive because it is ever evolving as we learn more about the world. With this said, knowledge is more life-like than information because it is the processing of information into your comprehension of a subject and thereby your interpretation of it. With this idea, I do not think that your searches are smarter than you. When you search something online, you do get suggestions from the search engine, but these are really suggestions based on common errors and searches others have made based on your keywords, so it isn’t necessarily that the search engine is truly intelligent, but that the computer programmers have found a way to tell the search engine to find common errors that others have made and using what they really wanted to search for to determine what you “really wanted” to search for.

Mike Pasque